Smart, love water, eager to hunt and please Whats not to like? Note: Be sure to check your state regulations to make sure it is okay to hunt Gain a better understanding of the World's most popular big game animal and the techniques that will help you become a better deer hunter. the walks are five or six days a week for thirty to forty-five minutes at a time. When ya'll pick a pup for a blood dog do you ever consider that a smaller breed, daschund for example, will usually live longer than a larger bred dog? After the dog showed some aptitude for retrieving, White sent the dog called Dumpy to his longtime friend and hunting partner Whit Boykin. Other ancestors are reported to be the Chesapeake Bay retriever, springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, and the American water spaniel.Today this little brown retriever can be found on hunts and in homes across America. Boykin spaniels are true dual-purpose hunting dogs. Is there a certain length or type I should use? Do not own one but there are two where I hunt. Sometimes under the right circumstances I allow my dog to track off lead for a mile or more. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. The little Dude gives you all he has every time. Love my Boykins! I would have no fear of having him around small children. They are so similar in behavior, mannerisms, and hunting style that I couldn't tell the difference in the two if I didn't know their lineage. I am considering Boykin Spaniel Plantation in Georgia right now. boykin owners are "different". Once he smelled me, all was fine. He is great around people he knows but does bark at those he does not. I miss mine terribly. I'm not looking for a specific hunting dog, just an all-around hunting dog. The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900s to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp. to sit quietly while you call the birds back in. Several door prizes will be given away as well. This was before tracking collars. No training has ever been required. You can train them for pretty much any kind of hunting apparently, except pointing. Most hunting Boykins, English Springers or English Cockers will be hot wired for play. I have been looking at a lot of different breeders and they all have huge waiting lists. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Some people use harnesses some people use GPS collars. I will echo what Cruiser said, English Cockers are great dogs too. Don't be too harsh on them about it until you are sure they can Big old lap dogs at home bird crazy in the field. I track on lead because I dot want anything to happen to my dog beyond my control. This past season both pups worked with an old dog off leadMy old dogs 7 & 8 year olds never been train on lead both or good trackers.Randy "trackncur" knows thats. It's just a preference. When the pup is about six months I try to take them where turkeys are likely to be and They flush, they don't point. Curs are great dogs. The are very similar to Boykins, both at home and in the field. The kids love her. Calls with Beechnut and Chaser. I have friends that track their deer with pit bulls. Like any good field breed, theyre probably as much about how theyre trained as what breed they are. I've never trained a dog to track. I have owned three still have my male; The last papa bought my daughter fell in love with it while she was dog sitting over Labor Day weekend and she renamed it and claimed it as her own! We are just getting ready to do some training with her. I feel like I can read him pretty well now by his behavior and body language and I have the ability to stop or correct him in the palm of my hand just the same. My Boykin turned 15 in October. Mine was perfect with people and other dogs. Never owned a Boykin; always heard good things about them. I do know when my dog is on the right track, even when there is no blood, because I can "read" her when she's on lead. They work hard in the field so, since they are flushers, be prepared to try to keep up. He still has a long way to go though and well likely go back to doing some on lead training over the summer. Both of mine were/are great on pheasant flushing and retrieving. Does anyone have experience with this breed as either a pet in general or a hunting dog? I talked to a breeder in Hallsville, TX and was put on a "long" waiting list. LOVES the water! I had a Boykin and, when I couldn't find a suitable pup to replace him, found a Field Bred English Cocker pup. 22B39269-3CA1-4E5D-AA3D-5ACBEAAC6D03.jpeg, 629B26EC-9920-4E50-A0A9-B9B94C7543BB.jpeg, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Can't go wrong with one. Always better if the dog can track on lead. Most testing is done with a 10m lead. I have been wanting one myself for a while and now that I am retiring soon I have decided it is time to get one. I wouldn't follow her a half-mile or more with no blood, as I often do, if I couldn't read her and trust her. You may want to practice at home making I love Boykins. W. Whit Boykin (1861-1932), a planter, land appraiser and well-known sportsman of the Boykin community just outside Camden, South Carolina, along with his kinsmen the Canteys, experimented with many breeds to resolve the problems posed by their Wateree hunting trips. I would think a Boykin Spaniel would be just right. This will take a few times or more for the pup to learn It's really a preference. Someone working a lab may have a completely different perception of off lead tracking than someone working say a dashund or a Kopov. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. When you first take a puppy out for walks and there are deer in the area - watch out Ive hunted with a lot of other boykins and most were pretty business minded in the field. Pam's Boykin Home Page There is literally nothing that I would have changed about her. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Privacy Statement - This will help quiet him. There will always be situations where the dog needs to be on lead (roads, property lines and such). Swamps and snake bites aren't as much problem and those size dogs tend to be healthy, agile and long lived. Several of the ducks got ate after them retrieving to shoreline and it didn't bother owners to much. Alexander L. White (1860-1942) liked the little dog and took it home. I guess I got the best of both worlds with the Boykin that I had. Archive - They are more than adequate for both according to the reviews I read online. They are great dogs. I would say that they are very capable dogs for retrieving and make a great house dog. Still want to try one, though. It is NOT legal in South Carolina or Florida. At a hunt to retrieve trial that got your dog booted instantly. One of the best breeds out there, IMHO. Plotts" now 24 and 19 months neither has had any training on lead. It will still probably be a long wait especially for a female. just bred into 'em. Mostly use mine to retrieve, but they are natural flushers as well. My EC is also liver colored. turkeys with dogs. pam@boykinspaniel.com You have to if your going to bay up a neck shot, broken leg, etc. With selective breeding and a little luck, Boykin developed a small multipurpose retriever now known as the Boykin spaniel. Comparing just running a dog off lead with no control over them versus running one with an Alpha system is apples and oranges. back to you put him into the bag. The only thing I (think) I know for sure is that each pup is an individual, and ignoring that to make them fit in some box for a breed generality on temperament, training aptitude, etc is likely an issueat least as much as hearing about stubborn spaniels, destructive Boykins, or labs with no drive, etc. In Boykins hands the little stray developed into a superb turkey dog and waterfowl retriever. An aptitude for water retrieving combined with their compact size assures these dogs a place in the duck boats and blinds as well. in Shreveport. This information was found on the website for the Boykin Spaniel Society. There is one listed in Morringsport, but we could never get a reply. Cookie Policy - Ive listened to both ways of thinking and ended up doing a combination of both. I would probably train to retrieve and blood trail. I think this is gonna be fun. I guess I`m not a best tracker cause I don`t track on lead, I have two pups"both reg. Sent a deposit and had to wait for the next litterjust a few months. Ive got two. When you say "harness" What type are you referring to? Just field experience. with a little luck they will smell the birds and start chasing and barking at them. Both loved water as well. I do have permanent scars on my forearms from tracking on lead. Stamina in hot weather and eagerness to please make this dog a favorite in the dove fields, but Boykins have retained their spaniel flushing abilities and readily adapt to a variety of upland game hunting including pheasant, quail and grouse. All rights reserved. We got ours 2 months ago from a breeder in Ashdown, AR. I see the points being made by both sides of the argument. quiet until you shoot or give the release command. This post was edited on 10/18 at 11:37 am, This post was edited on 10/18 at 12:14 pm. Like many of the sporting breeds, Boykin spaniels make the transition from hunting companion to family pet easily. They are not built for sloppy mud (not that a lab is either, but I've seen the boykin get stuck where a lab could eventually get out). There have been like 4 track dogs do this year alkne due to cars. Joe Sears of Adventure Game times a week. Are you looking for a specific type of hunting dog? If I find any turkey feathers while walking I pick them up, call the dog to me, and let Great family dogs, great hunters all-around great disposition! You have control over what the dog is doing especially when it's a pup. Never owned one before, but have had friends that did. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. and add a little more each time. Alabama Blood Tracking Training Seminar March 12, Re: Alabama Blood Tracking Training Seminar March 12, Want to trade my 20 gauge TSS and IC choke, Deer clubs who keep turkey rights separate, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. Theres definitely some differences in opinions out there concerning this topic. Work your way up to it by starting with 5 minutes battues boy, Merlot, is a rock star of a dog! Being choosie now, but a light colored dog is easier to see and read, especially at night. I always preferred a 35 to 50 pound dog. Shes been a fantastic dog. You can see a picture of him in my thread ". Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. He was telling me that they made the Boykin as a pure hunting dog b/c the springer had almost exclusively become a show dog. All rights reserved. Some states don't allow off lead tracking. Shot a Boykin field trial once very versatile dogs. Not as good as my Lab or chesapeake but no slouch either and can go a lot harder in the dove fields than any of the others. (retriever, squirrel dog, rabbit dog, etc). To be a part of the Boykin Spaniel pages, contact Pam Kadlec: I contacted the one on Old Mooringsport Rd. A good friend has one. Boykins have often been described as the dog that doesnt rock the boat. They are even effective in deer driving or in tracking wounded deer. and call them off of deer scent. Talked to a lady in Austin that had a male (we wanted a female) and then the folks in Ashdown. I keep hearing they're a high strung pain in the butt. them smell it and eat it if they like. Usually the best trackers start out on lead for 3 or 4 seasons. They only have one litter every two years. It will be much harder when you are actually out in the I did the vast majority of Otiss training in the first year on lead and then switched to an off lead method this tracking season. History of the Boykin Spaniel The typical heavyweight retriever was a drawback in a craft already loaded with men, guns, provisions and other gear. I've found both to be great house dogs and hunters. Males are $650, females $600. There is one close to where I live (Shreveport) but I don't know anything about them and they are extremely new (2 years). For more information please visit their website at www.boykinspaniel.org. Eventually he will get the idea that he has to stay Buddy was raised from a pup by the ranch foreman and is a deer tracking machine. Great little dog. My Boykin "Tig" is about 8. been one of the better gundogs ive owned. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Awesome dogs Had one in high school and college and hunted doves and ducks with him. Just saying it is nice to have a dog that can do both. They just inseminated the bitch and expect to have a litter in 2 months. A.J., I did say "usually". Well..Perhaps her insistence that she ride on my lap everywhere we went. The Mrs. Last Coco and I are looking into getting a dog. Similar situatuion here. Is that about right? First time I showed up in a mask, he wanted nothing to do with me. A friend of mine has one. Hunting Partners, Family Pets, and Best Friends. Advertising - 51B194B7-208F-4B7B-B251-165C45F8C1D9.jpeg. They are good for any kind of duck but a goose would be too big. What length leads? How did you settle on a breeder? We were shooting a thrown launched duck with blind retrieve they aren't labs but pretty good. Then try putting the bag over Good luck and happy hunting! Hunters on South Carolinas Wateree River needed a small rugged dog compactly built for boat travel and able to retrieve on land and water. Contact Us - Terms of Service - Copyright @2022 TigerDroppings.com. distinguish between deer and turkey scent. the pup sit still for a half and hour. Buy from a reputable breeder and check carefully on their blood lines. In those days wagons, wooden boats and trains afforded hunters access to the game rich corridors along the river. They require a soft hand or you will shut them down. The guy who originally bred Boykins did a great job! But boat travel limited what hunters could carry. Thats just my anecdotal, not some professional insight.but Ive seen and worked with good and bad of many breeds: lab, Boykin, springer, golden, and many pointing and versatile breeds. She wants something small, and I want a hunting dog so we are looking at Boykin spaniels. the pup and giving the stay command. A tracking lead in no way holds a dog back, except maybe swimming a pond, and in that case I just send someone to the other side to catch her when she comes out on the deer's trail. They are brothers. When the pup comes Shes completely calm in the house, but was a fantastic flusher and retriever in her younger days. When your pup is about 3 months old take him/her out for about 15 minute walks 4 -5 Mb. I'd really like to attend this. Only two of them hunted and I was VERY impressed with them!!!!!! One of my best dogs, Ol' Bob, never tracked a step off lead. About same size as a Boykin. If you guys are even thinking about going off lead then definitely check out the Garmin Alpha system. Most people including mike who I've talked to many times abut tracking agree that a lead is the best for at least 3 seasons. Your right about getting to a call quickly, it saves a lot of meat and the only tracks you need to wait a few hours on are gut shots and liver shots. It can always be turned loose if needed to bay, cross big water or whatever. not to chase deer. By logging into your account, you agree to our, The following errors occurred with your submission. I own a Catahoula. It's This dog became the foundation stock for the Boykin spaniel. Start with about 15 minute sessions and by the time they are 6-7 months old Boykin Spaniel Standard. I've never hunted with a Boykin, but I know a guy that hunts with a Springer Spaniel. Ducksyou could say that! 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